Agreed. People are too eager to signal moral outrage to actually see the bigger picture.

100%, it's annoying to see so much noise and very little signal on this topic here.

There is a lot of poor comprehension going on in this thread. People seem to be acting on emotion rather than reason.

> In software engineering, we learned a long time ago that giant monoliths are not the answer.

That depends on the question. If the question is "How do I utilize 10,000 software engineers?" then yes, a monolith is not the answer. However, this isn't a problem most companies face. Starting out with microservices is rarely a good idea either as you'll have a hard time getting the boundaries right.

Did you report them with ubuntu-bug?

I have just run into another bug with 'comm', which I had in a shell script.

It was reported in mid 2025, and was fixed 2 weeks ago.

It's very basic — sort (including uutils sort) takes into account locale, but comm didn't. Very basic testing would have found this problem.

Honest question, is it worth it for an average user to file reports?

The first time I tried this was the last time I tried. It was ca. 2012 on an Acer laptop that I personally configured to dual-boot. My memory is not to be trusted but

- the biggest problem for me was that it asked for a core dump/logfile, which I agreed to, but for some reason or another it could not produce/extract said debug info and I got stuck in a loop of whoopsie trying and failing.

- smaller grievance (I might be wrong) is that I had to create some account (Launchpad?) in order to report the bug. Why can't it be anonymous?!

Everytime I turned this Acer laptop on, there will be 2-3 such prompts from Ubuntu that something report-worthy went wrong. You learn to blend it out like the cookie consent dialogs but still annoying. Plus, everything is still perfectly usable so it does seem like the OS is just making a mountain out of a molehill.

In my experience every time I go to report a bug or submit a feature request on anything, I find that someone else has already done so it and a maintainer has responded with one of these:

- "why would anyone want that?"

- "that bug is not possible."

- "it's working as intended."

I reported either on Ubuntu's tracker, or the uutils GitHub, unless they'd already been reported.

The chown bug took 18 months to be fixed. The ls bug isn't fixed after 6 months. Sort was fixed in about 3 months.

There are hundreds of open bugs: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues — the project clearly wasn't suitable for an LTS release.

GNU Coreutils also has hundreds of open bugs:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=coreutils

It's normal to find hundreds of open bugs in large open source projects

True. :)

I really should close some of them, e.g., 8559, since Gnulib, which we depend on, doesn't support IRIX anymore since it is EOL.

When did i sign up to work QA for Ubuntu? Did I miss my orientation and providing my direct deposit info?

You get a very good Linux distro without paying a single penny for it. Why not do a little work to help make it better?

I do get a good one. From debian.org and I’ll report any bugs I find in it.

They have. I just updated my resolute system to the patched kernel 7.0.0-43.43. Patched kernel versions have been available via the -proposed pocket before: https://ubuntu.com/blog/fixes-available-in-proposed-pocket-f...

Debian doesn't have any of the Ubuntu Pro features, e. g. Kernel live patching.

Even my corp doesn't have Ubuntu Pro, I still have no clue why they use.

Has Ubuntu rolled out the patch only via live patching?

No, it's still WIP.

So their live patching is a larp too. Security theatre, pathetic company, pointless existence.

Look dude, let's get something straight: just because someone didn't jump on command for that one patch you suddenly care about out of the blue, doesn't mean they're LARPing on anything.

If you want to dismiss other people's work like that, have at least some decency to provide a track record beyond "they didn't do what I wanted REEEEEEE!!!!" type response.

No.

Not the case for me.

> So, do you actually want a router that you can buy with DD-WRT pre-installed?

No, I'd rather flash it myself and use OpenWrt instead of DD-WRT.

Availability of an OpenWrt port is the first thing I check when looking for network hardware :)

It's fine if you don't want to manage your self-hosted stuff anymore but implying that self-hosting is dead now because of LLMs is doomerism.

I think it’s pretty clear by me writing “I” in the comment twice that I was providing my personal opinion on what I’m doing.

It’s a pretty strong misread of what I wrote to say I’m implying self-hosting is dead.

I might have jumped the gun a bit with that take, sorry. Which new challenges came up that made you feel ill-equipped to continue self-hosting?

my DO droplet was like 100 years old and I never tried once to update any software I had running on it or the OS, then said hmm that's probably bad. Now for most stuff other than password manager I had running on there, hack it, I don't even care. Not the password manager though, can't be risking that.

Got it. If you want to self-host again at some point you could add a VPN layer and configure unattended-upgrades with automatic reboots. With an Ubuntu Pro subscription (free for up to 5 personal devices) you can even get kernel live patching. Once that's taken care of you can automate the app updates with systemd timers / cronjobs and small scripts.

It's a patch release, therefore the .1 suffix.