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Bad teachers are the default, and good ones exception, maybe 10:1. It's an underpaid, overworked job mostly.


So HPMOR and friends prove that we don't need to worry about the authorship, and focus on the experience?

It makes sense, but is the opposite of the OP.


HPMOR is one of those fanfics which make you feel a strong connection to the author, he really poured his soul into it ("rare vitamins" as he put it [1]), the good and the bad, kinda the exception that proves the rule. Probably this is why it was so successful.

[1] https://hpmor.com/notes/progress-14-05-01/


Why ruin it for the large community who didnt notice it or mind it, and actually like it? Give cold shoulder by literally walking away. Yelling "SLOP SLOP SLOP" is opposite of cold shoulder, no?


Holy moly https://yegge.ai/essays/model-welfare/ ! Talk about spicy takes. Fable is sentient, be nice to it, or in six months I won't be your friend.

fwiw, i give it a 1/3rd chance he's right.


I give it a 0 chance he’s right.


Quite useful. Currently we do overpay for the services.


> AI is starting to show that the emperor called academia has no clothes

Why single out academia? We're seeing vast majority of knowledge work had no clothes.

>working your way through that system >pointless rituals >rethink their way of doing things, and they really don't like it


There's an LLM prompt that will trivially do that.


It's the opposite: humans. The most critical one (sandbox escape) has been sitting there for 13 years.


The question is how many new bugs were introduced through those AI fixes.

Is it less than a human would have? Is it more? Is it the same type of bugs?

I could be convinced either way and it's an interesting thing to ponder in my opinion.


This is the thing the anti-ai zealots will never admit. Humans fucking suck at writing code. They talk about software development as if it's only ever performed by the top 1% of the top 1%. They never acknowledge that humans make mistakes. No. Humans create perfect code every fucking time while LLM's only produce slop. It's such a fucking mind-numbingly stupid position that I have to think they have never actually worked in an organization which produced code as a value. These fucking morons want to pretend a human never introduces a memory leak when it's plain as fucking day that vulnerabilities that these "expert programmers" introduce to software are rampant. But no. The anti-ai zealot likes to pretend that only LLMs ever produce bad code. The only bugs in existence are due to LLM slop and not the literal decades of fucking slop produced by humans without any LLM assistance. It's so fucking tired at this point. They will never be able to admit that current day LLMs are far beyond the median human programmer. Their opinions are fucking useless at this point. These idiots think The Daily WTF started with LLM code. They are basically anti-vaxxers wrt to their grasp on reality. No one should take them seriously to any degree.


Fucking humans and their shitty creations eh?


Or people don't ask questions for which the answer is known to be "None, really."

I get that many don't like what LLMs are doing to the industry, but this is just incorrect reaction to a very specific benefit that's proven beyond doubt (Security hardening).

Accept it imo - LLMs are solving very large problems that have plagued software security.


Sorry it is your reaction that is really weird. These are legitimate questions, and I have definitely seen Claude finding the wrong cause and then implementing completely incorrect/irrelevant fixes, only to find that it didn't work and need to start over. Not saying humans don't do the same thing, but LLMs are far from perfect, and it would be delusional to only talk about successes.


I've done security work before, and I've done it now with frontier. I've seen the difference first hand, and as the OP and so many other articles show, so have the leading experts in the world.

So either they are lying, or you may not yet be seeing and experiencing what they are. If that's wierd, ok.


You did not address my points or those in OP but kept repeating yours (that are not even relevant) in a handwavy way.

And that's fine. You can continue to live in your bubble. Others simply have different experience, and your asserting "AI is perfect" on a forum is not going to matter in terms of everyone's own, first hand experience.


I don't see the ad with the adblock, but the shitty UX popup modal at the bottom will be the death of them.


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