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They should be expelled, but that's not possible. So the EU is indeed kinda helpless against member states gone rouge


I don't recommended this scenario but: the other states could join a new union and leave Hungary and possibly other states outside (the usual split into a good company and a bad one.) Lots of legal disputes but in international law the strongest party always makes the law and shrugs problems away.

BTW, is it rouge (as in French for red) or rogue?


No, they can't make a new union, that's just stupid. It took decades to build the EU as it is now. Building something new isn't feasible.

Just look at the Brexit shitshow and that was only a country leaving.

And besides that, the EU has never been about controlling national governments. The common values thing it's something new they brought to the table because they want to expand their powers.


In case of Poland the only value being forced by the EU is not breaking Poland’s own constitution. Which is required for any kind of reliable business, which, in turn, is pretty central to fundamental purpose of the EU.


Or they could just develop decent sanctions and enforce them. Hungary is a massive net recipient of EU funds, which seems a great starting lever, plus throw just the smallest amount of friction into their Schengen status, and you've got something pretty potent there.


It's Rogue. Common misspelling :)


Orban will vote easily against Poland just when he is guaranteed that he gets money from after-COVID fund. Maybe that is why EU are withholding Hungary spend plan for this fund.


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I am really not sure where this notion is coming from and I've seen it repeated in this thread multiple times now. The reason Orban's government is considered dangerous within the EU context has never been because of his stance on immigration or that he "doesn't kiss the rainbow flag". The problem is that his government has been attacking and dismantling democratic institutions such as academia, the media, NGOs and even the judiciary to some extend. The critique and this development started long before the refugee situation in 2015.

This has really nothing to do with immigration or LGTBQ policy. A number of EU countries are not really champions of immigration or LGTBQ+ matters either (Slowakia, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece). This idea that the issue is about him or his government not being "hip" or "woke" enough is really odd to say the least.


The recent politicising the courts, and the political aftermath, is bad enough to warrant serious action from the EU. Orban has had undemocratic tendencies for a long time, and his blatant misuse of power has had all spectrums of the political field concerned since we'll before the 2015 EU migration crisis.


The government calling people subhuman simply because of what gender they prefer or feel like is far more twisted than some "not kissing the rainbow flag", and that's what's happening in Hungary or Poland receiving huge EU subsidies.


While there's a fair amount of hypocrisy from other countries going on, the core issues are more about human rights and fascism than about hipness.


Are there even other "languages"? Or are there just signals like "land-predator!" etc?


Dolphins are understood well enough that we know there are regional dialects, and they broadcast individual name identifiers.

We know they're talking at least enough to have a sense of self, but AFAIK we haven't deciphered the culture/language enough to say anything meaningful to them.


I sleep outside most days year-round and the morning chatter of the birds is a delight. I understand none of it. Maybe they, like us, enjoy hearing themselves talk?


I always chuckle at birdsong, and how pretty it is. Most of it evolved to be some form of "GO AWAY" or "COME HAVE SEX PLEASE" that was loud and distinct enough to be heard over great distances and over the other noises in nature.

So, listening to sweet birdsong first thing in the morning is like going to a rowdy bar on a Saturday night and listening to the singles yell at each other over the music.

It genuinely never fails to make me chuckle when I'm on the porch listening to birds in the morning.


> Most of it evolved to be some form of "GO AWAY" or "COME HAVE SEX PLEASE"

You missed "DANGER DANGER" and "FEED ME" and "I'M HERE WHERE ARE YOU" and "HEADS UP GUYS (let's mob that raptor)"


I always love that quote (can't find it) that Elephants have a special noise for "warning! there are bees nearby!", and someone pointing out that humans do too, it sounds like this: "warning! there are bees nearby!"


I'm curious about sleeping outside. Is it normal in your culture or a personal preference? Are you in a tent or exposed?


I’m in a tent, and would consider going without as there aren’t many insects around here that want to eat parts of me. There are coyotes and the occasional black bear and cougar, but I’m fairly close to the house. I grew up in rural USA and an comfortable in the woods. I try not to speak for others, and I haven’t yet met anyone who regularly sleeps outside when not on a camping trip.


Can't say much of the mushrooms, but the Mac trackpad is so good, it made me write this comment ;)


I love it!


Is it that easy? It seems, that only works if people can pay for the essentials. For example, look at the grain prices that sparked the protests of the arabian spring. People could everywhere not afford their bread anymore while Saudi Arabia bought the grain at ultra high prices.


Yes, it's that easy. And prices of commodity food staples only cause unrest in very poor nations where food inputs constitute a large % of their income.

Wheat costs about $200/ton and peaked around $450/ton during the arab spring period. A ton of wheat (with a few supplements) is enough to for 500g/day for 5 people for a year if half your calories come from wheat. Even at $500/ton, that's about $100/yr/person for the wheat itself. Wholesale raw foods are quite cheap from the perspective of someone in a rich nation. Can be quite expensive for the very poor. The solution is to help people in poor nations industrialize so that they are less poor.


Less wind in the winter is surely not true for countries in Europe.


Dead. There is a comment further down, where you can see the state of it in Google Maps.


That is so sad to see. It reminded me of this one wood that was planted in then desert. You could see it dried out and then later cut down.


This is not reddit.


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