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Affairs are commonplace. Most likely the internal findings from the investigation point to something more troubling/illegal

I'd go as far as to say the second leak helps him a bit, by reframing this as a cheating scandal rather than it being more about him knowingly evading an embargo.

Having an affair with your direct report also wildly increases the risk that Nvidia would be embroiled in high-profile lawsuits, either for sexual harassment or favoritism

>increases the risk that Nvidia would be embroiled in high-profile lawsuits, either for sexual harassment or favoritism

Firing him doesn’t make them any leas liable for any potential sexual harassment or favoritism that already happened


Whether the board knowingly allowed the problem to continue can absolutely factor into the company’s liability.

Which is still better than prosecution for evading sanctions on China by working with a Chinese spy.

I suspect that there gotta be something else going on with that as well. Maybe someone in the company wanna take his position or something.

A CEO admitting to an affair with a customer after previously denying it, seems like a sufficient reason for removal, even before you add the geopolitical intrigue.

I don't follow this logic. Why is an affair with a customer grounds for announcing a resignation that caused an instant 10% stock price drop?

Because the customer in question raises questions of the CEO's judgement, plus the possibility of knowledge that the target was violating sanctions. We don't know. That's why it's a bad situation for the stock.

The stock seems to be responding more heavily to the potential loss of Jensen than it does to the potential continuation of Jensen given new knowledge.

It also seems like there’s a high potential for half of Jensen’s position to be granted in a subsequent divorce decree, meaning there could be enormous selling pressure in the next several years.

Doesn't he only own like 3% of the stock? His wife would get 1.5% of the company and I see no reason for her to liquidate all of it right away.

I don’t think she’s likely to sell it right away, but I do think she’s a lot more likely to sell it sooner than they would have together as of last week.

That change is still material to the future outlook as the price is the intersection of supply and demand and the predicted supply of $NVDA shares for sale just increased by scores of billions of dollars worth.


He didn’t come clean on his own accord - he was faced with irrefutable evidence and admitted it.

How can you trust anything he says after this?

Why should regulators or other customers believe any promises made by him?

His credibility is shot - the day to day stock prices changes are irrelevant.


Morality is not a straight line, once someone has cheated they sort of accepted it for themselves after feeling guilty but that doesn't transfer to other places where someones morals are challenged.

He’s a dork with 100’s of billions, testing the rules. A bit like a teenager given infinite resources.

Imo that’s danger zone shit for the company, whether you’re offended by the morality bits or not.


You should never trust any CEO in first place, don’t know why everyone is trying to treat this guy as a school teacher.

He's baggin baddies, and blowing up stock prices. I honestly don't see the problem. Bought more NVDA, this dip is just free money.

You mean the short trader who wrote a report and pushed it is the good guy?

Maybe he will donate his proceeds to charity...


Keeping bad things hidden in the name of shareholder value is not free market

Relationships and stock price are built on trust. An affair, a relationship with a customer/subordinate, and an attempted cover-up are all breaches of that trust.

Because it potentially gives the affair partner a lever to bypass internal company controls.

> Why is an affair with a customer grounds for announcing a resignation that caused an instant 10% stock price drop?

OP said

>A CEO admitting to an affair with a customer *after previously denying it*, seems like a sufficient reason for removal

It's not the crime. It's the cover up.

In this case Jensen either 1) lied to the board about the affair, 2) directed the Nvidia PR to publish a materially false statement about it, or 3) both.

From a company governance standpoint it's incredibly hard to trust Jensen when he's either lying to you, using the company to protect his personal life, or (again) both.

Admitting to the affair with a customer is a nothingburger. Directing the company to release a false statement about it, and that customer turns out to be a Chinese asset if a BIG fucking deal.

Lying about it served no one's interest but Jensen's, and ended up hurting the company significantly.


Nvidia's previous denials are a significant issue from a board of directors position. He either lied to the board about it, directed the company's PR people to make a false statement about it, or both. And that lie turned out to be material (in a SEC sense of the word material).

It would be very difficult for the board to regain trust in his ability to make choices that are correct for Nvidia, rather than himself.


Two back to back including one with a subordinate and one involving a person violating export controls though are pretty tough to weather. And I doubt that's the end of the affairs too, I'm not a Huang is months away from having dated every woman on earth extrapolationist but I also doubt he's only had (or has) 2.

edit: Two with a subordinate now.

Like selling hardware to potential competitors of US AI inference services? The extent of the compute laundering has been pretty well covered.

I have a feeling we'll know the reasons for certain when Nvidia's stance on open models and local AI does an about-face.


Could be that breaking embargo and sleeping with spies had something to do with it. Wild guess, I know.

I don't know why you're getting downvotes. The parent comment, "Most likely the internal findings from the investigation point to something more troubling/illegal", is comical. The information on the public record already points to something troubling/illegal, as you just pointed out!

The absolute obliviousness of computer technicians to how business or politics work.

Plus Jensen Huang is an immigrant from Taiwan. And this administration does not like people who haven't been born on this geographical soil (being not born on US soil, I am obviously not against it, just pointing out obvious animosity of current US administration towards immigrants in general)

Trump likes successful ones:

Musk, Vivek, etc.


you mean financially successful right? Otherwise both are terrible parasites and recently we just seeing tip of an iceberg when it comes to Vivek (I know 2 people that worked for him, but I will leave it at that).

How do you know if you are sticking your head in the sand versus being reasonable?


One of the first things I learned in ML is that the model can only learn from the information in X. If X doesn't contain enough information to determine y, no amount of compute can fully recover it.

That's why I'm skeptical of grand claims about AI. Scaling can make models much better, but it can't create information that isn't there. An AI system can be extremely useful without becoming superhuman.


And what do you think about recent developments, for example Navier-Stokes? I always thought the same but now I have doubts, but maybe it is just psyops from openai.


It is speculated that there was context leak from a NYU Professor's chat I think? I contribute to SciPy heavily and I've seen AI shit the bed a few times now. So 13 million lines of lean? Hell no dude!


>A real one, worked all the way through

i just can't with these ai-written blog posts. if i wanted to learn WebMCP through chatgpt i would have just asked chatgpt


slop article


If all the other AI companies are promising AGI by Q4 of next year, what else can you do to satisfy shareholders than also jump on that same bandwagon?


The vision of having a shared interface for all work seems pretty clear to me.


I’m sorry, what does it mean?


That describes a computer


When you return the device, it needs to be in mint condition. You now have a credit obligation with Klarna, whereas on the pervious system, there was also 0% financing but it was bundled AppleCare+.

I don't think anyone will ever excercise the buyout option since the phone will never be worth more than the buyout price. And like you're saying, this program does not make sense unless you are upgrading every single year.

I mean in any case, every option looks defensible once you've accepted the premise that you need a new phone every 12 months. Any minute differences in costs are just rounding errors. Like I really don't think someone upgrading every year is going to have a significantly different retirement income because they saved $1200 every year by not buying the iphone outright. It's really just a convenience thing, not a financial decision.


So funny to me how you wasted time giving all this feedback but OP is just going to feed it into Claude and not actually read anything you said. Don't reward people that don't care about what they're building with effort, it makes the world a worse place.


You're probably right, and yet here I am.


>In other words, correctness, truth, cohesiveness, completeness, comprehension, etc are all essentially patterns that are mapped in this space.

The caveat is that truth in latent space is just a reflection of the consensus from the corpus, and you find truth by comparing the answer in latent space to what is in reality.

But I just hate this idea that truth and facts are no longer real, they're just "directions". The more we rely on these models for our lives, the more we lose touch with reality and are pushed and pulled in all these different directions. Feels like the future is just ai psychosis and there's no way out. Is that what complete agi victory looks like?


> But I just hate this idea that truth and facts are no longer real, they're just "directions".

There's another way to look at this which is just as pernicious, and you've already mentioned it. That's the idea that "truth" is the consensus of the training data. Even if you include several layers of meta-training-data (i.e training data that comments on the accuracy/truthfulness of other training data), this idea that we can get truth by just carrying out some aggregate operation across (everything|a lot of stuff) seems completely obviously false to me.


Indeed how do we break free from the tyranny of group think?


I think virtual reality and AI are a prelude to humanity living in Hong Kong style coffin apartments, and things will get progressively worse until we're in Matrix pods.


I can't tell if your comment is LLM generated or not. What's the point of even reading comments anymore I should just ask claude what it thinks.


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