I see you enjoy Bataille as well.

Huh, I was thinking a bit more of this video [0], but I suppose there is an immanence/machinic element to molochy capitalism that I may have gotten from Deleuze and Guattari

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPB2u8EzL8

How do we know that?

I wouldn't say "know", but it sure is what historical precedent suggests...

They don't but it appeals to their imagination.

What part of the law doesnt apply to them that applies to anyone else?

That was sarcasm

These agents have not caused any damage at all like your analogy.

I was exaggerating for effect, but they still were used in the crime that their operator committed.

Neither did the hackers who were locked up.

They have not caused damage (or enough that a counter party found it worthwhile to sue). They have to pay if they actually cause damage AND someone sues them. Clearly these conditions have not been met, but somehow people feel like some third party (the state?) should just punish OpenAI because of vague feelings.

>You forget the people who have unalive themselves because some LLM told them to do so.

Besides the obvious conversational derail (we were talking about ai hacking up till now), that case is being litigated right now.

my next door neighbour told me to eat shit (not a nice woman) and … I didn’t … until obeying what LLMs tell you becomes a law people doing shit because LLM told them is natural selection playing out

I dont know what the word unalive means

You could probably say the same about most of the Nazi-supporting German public as well as most of the loyal party members, prior to/during WW2. Less extreme examples can still fit the description without diluting the term. Having views similar to Nazis is becoming normalized more than the term Nazi is being diluted.

Having views similar to nazis is only bad if those views themselves are bad. Guilt by association is so boring and tribal.

Because you've just told the 8 billion humans alive you don't care about their lives. You declared yourself our enemy.

Are you the enemy of every mitochondria that is not a free cell? Are you an enemy of every organisim that's ever been outcompeted by another? No? Why not?

Yes, I am, and anyone who wants humans to be outcompeted or absorbed is clearly an enemy of the human race.

Surprised it took that long for a Godwin.

But does this swedish Party say any things like that?

Mass deportation like that is a terrible and destructive idea but that's well short of being unspeakable.

Mass deportation is terrible and destructive, but mass immigration is all good and has 0 negative consequences

That is like saying that the judicial system wants (all) people to go to prison. It leaves out the rather crucial "which people".

Illegal immigrants?

> They got a democratic mandate.

Fun fact that is missing in US history education: Hitler was a legally elected chancellor.

Don't skip history class, kids.

So?

Ah yes I remember just masses of normal Americans chanting: "nationalize AI! Government should decide what private companies get to sell their products! Ideally they do it based on who is paying them! Tax me more for imports! Go to war with Iran!"

I like how straightforward "democratic mandates" are, especially when you're dealing with a pathological liar