Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Kratom is the safest way to withdrawal from opiates. It can ease the symptoms to a very manageable level. It also cannot be abused and if a dose larger than about 20 grams is consumed, it will not provide any additional relief and only cause stomach discomfort.

Kratom is much better than Methadone as you are then addicted to Methadone and withdrawal from Methadone is MUCH worse. I have seen someone who was mildly dependant on Opiates given a much higher dosage of Methadone that actually increased their tolerance to opiates and pushed them further into opiate dependence.

Kratom has almost no physical withdrawal symptoms and is a heroin addicts best option to try to kick the habit. This is the absolute worst thing that can be done given the amount of heroin addicts that were created by the DEA's crackdown on legal opiate prescription pain relief.



Apropos of anything else and comments on the relative merits, this needs a citation:

"It also cannot be abused and if a dose larger than about 20 grams is consumed, it will not provide any additional relief and only cause stomach discomfort."


I haven't seen any peer-reviewed literature talking about this particular aspect of kratom or mitragynine, but if you look at Erowid or the kratom subreddit you will find hundreds if not thousands of people saying the same thing. Anecdotal, I know, but still.


Once it's rushed into Schedule I, good luck getting it.


I guess you could always take a trip to Thailand...


...where it literally grows on trees.


Anecdote: I had a far-too-large dose produce obvious precipitated withdrawal – intense sneezing, elevated body temperature, and nausea. It resolved in a few hours. The plant contains a mix of agonists and antagonists IIRC, and this seemed to be protective. I don't use the stuff anymore, but it certainly didn't ruin (or even really damage) my life.




Consider applying for YC's Winter 2027 batch! Applications are open till November 2.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: