I bet Stack Overflow doesn't even have H1B workers.
> I seriously doubt you are getting a tenth of what you make for the company. There's only so far you can go by yourself.
I know how much my new employer makes per employee, and I make well more than a tenth of that. I'd suspect I capture around 30-40% of my value.
> Also, you wouldn't have to fight for 6 months to get a decent monitor, it will just be there.
You and I seem to occupy very different segments of the tech industry. Every single employer I've ever worked for has given me carte blanche to request whatever equipment I need on my first day of work. Only stupid or nearsighted employers quibble over <$5k in equipment expenses for an employee they pay hundreds of thousands per year.
> Do you think it would be a good negotiation if your company only got 1/100th of the profits of the joint venture? That's probably what you are getting now.
Why would I accept 1/100th of the profits of the join venture? I negotiate very aggressively—in fact, I'd argue that I once captured more than my value from a previous startup which ended up failing. I don't expect to capture 100% of the value, since the company is also providing resources which allow that value to be created (ex. significant existing scale).
If I negotiate in a group, I have to accept the outcome of the outcome of the group. I have no interest in making what the average programmer makes.
>They definitely have, at least for the high end of the market. For example, Hired shows a 3.28% increase in salaries for SF engineers this year. [0]
So if you really look at those numbers, you left out a bunch of them that don't back up your assertion that salaries are skyrocketing like they should in an ultra-high demand field:
SF Bay Area | 3.28%
Seattle | 2.14%
Austin | 0.96%
Chicago | 0.57%
New York | 0.25%
Boston | 0.24%
LA | -0.13%
London | -1.7%
Denver | -2.63%
Washington D.C | -2.85%
San Diego | -4.92%
Toronto | -6.29%
1. Half of the areas in your link are decreasing average salary before inflation.
2. Anything under the 2% inflation target is considered a decrease in income.
3. After subtracting 2% for inflation, add the cost of living increase in SF which was 78% between 2000 and 2015, and you are probably decreasing wages.
4. A union negotiator would know that. The hiring managers sure do (or at least the CFOs).
So let me ask the question a third time. If demand for tech workers is so high, why are wages flat? Do you think Apple/MS/Amazon/Google's EBITDA was that flat as well?
Great analogy. I'm going to use that one. It's gotten so bad companies won't even let me bring in my own good hardware I paid for to use. Dual core laptops with 3 hours battery life, 24" 1920x1080 monitor, mechanical hard drives, all shit.
That's a pretty unrealistic solution, especially considering most companies are trying to reduce costs and don't understand the economics of good equipment.
If you don't like hurricanes, just move away from the coast. Simple. /s
They definitely have, at least for the high end of the market. For example, Hired shows a 3.28% increase in salaries for SF engineers this year. [0]
> I suspect that's because businesses manipulate that so they can hire offshore workers cheaper.
I'm positive that open salary initiatives are not an attempt to hire H1B workers. I'm talking about things like this: https://stackoverflow.com/company/salary/calculator
I bet Stack Overflow doesn't even have H1B workers.
> I seriously doubt you are getting a tenth of what you make for the company. There's only so far you can go by yourself.
I know how much my new employer makes per employee, and I make well more than a tenth of that. I'd suspect I capture around 30-40% of my value.
> Also, you wouldn't have to fight for 6 months to get a decent monitor, it will just be there.
You and I seem to occupy very different segments of the tech industry. Every single employer I've ever worked for has given me carte blanche to request whatever equipment I need on my first day of work. Only stupid or nearsighted employers quibble over <$5k in equipment expenses for an employee they pay hundreds of thousands per year.
> Do you think it would be a good negotiation if your company only got 1/100th of the profits of the joint venture? That's probably what you are getting now.
Why would I accept 1/100th of the profits of the join venture? I negotiate very aggressively—in fact, I'd argue that I once captured more than my value from a previous startup which ended up failing. I don't expect to capture 100% of the value, since the company is also providing resources which allow that value to be created (ex. significant existing scale).
If I negotiate in a group, I have to accept the outcome of the outcome of the group. I have no interest in making what the average programmer makes.
[0] https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017