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> But growing more food on less land might be a good thing.

Not if it costs us our humanity. The mistreatment of animals we eat/farm is astonishing.

Maximizing efficiency isn't always the best metric to try and optimize for, it leads to some really warped places.

(Interesting side note, Tolkien wrote about this a bunch -- Sauron was originally a forge/craftsman god who just really wanted to make things more efficient. His downfall was that he overly liked coordination and disliked wasteful friction.)



So productivity....leads to evil.

I'm going to let my boss know about this right now. And I'm turning off SLACK!


Turn off slack to be less productive?? Surely you mean turning it on.


Sure, when you drive it to the maximum. Efficiency at all costs absolutely leads to outcomes that are pretty universally considered evil.


> Not if it costs us our humanity. The mistreatment of animals we eat/farm is astonishing.

"Humanity" not a universally accepted constant. Being "Humane" means largely arbitrary things depending on culture. I'm not sure I accept that your apparent definition of humanity meaningfully exists on a global scale so I'm far from worried about losing it.


Yeah, so let's race to the bottom and make sure we treat each other, animals and nature as bad as we can because it's all just relative...


How about we defend American norms on American soil?


Good call. Ethics and morality are pursuits for chumps.

rolls eyes




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