I wish I could "Show HN" the new Matasano offering, but, no f'ing way am I talking to HN about what appsec costs. It's annoying but there are simply two worlds: the world where people pay money for solutions to business problems, and HN, where code is valued in potential-Usenix-submissions-per-100kloc.
It's self-reinforcing, isn't it? I'm never going to have that conversation on HN, so all HN sees are the radically underpriced offerings and the hapless few people who stumble into quoting real prices here and getting slammed for it, which chases more people away from talking about what things cost, and on and on.
Yeah... I realize you'd have to battle a big vocal segment of HN, but it would be a favor to the many lurkers who just need to hear the other side of the story.
Discussing pricing is like debating the strategy of a sports team. We are all spectators with imperfect information on multiple levels. It's still educational and healthy to honestly debate pricing strategies.
