I wonder how we ever survived with the level of privacy we had before the advent of the internet. It must've been a living hell. /s
Privacy is not a problem, it is necessary in order for freedom from tyranny to be possible. Even if all the governments of the world mandate that all communication devices must be compromised like this, criminals will still be able to have private communication channels, but lawful citizens won't.
I don't claim to have an ideal solution here, but to your point: There weren't highly-effective global distribution networks for CSAM "before the advent of the internet" either. This capability has created a market for these people to produce/obtain this material, and thus creates financial incentives for people to abuse children in this way more than in pre-internet times. There needs to be some way of combating this that can keep up with this growth curve, and that answer can't simply be to throw up our hands and say "the criminals will always win, so there's no solution worth doing".
We should tackle this from the other end though. That there are children so abused and isolated whilst ignored by society is shameful. We need solutions that treat children as humans rather than a product or contraband.
This makes it sound like there aren’t entities out there who are interested in such solutions. If you have one that fulfills that need, I’m sure Apple and others are open to hearing it.
This is a great response and covers what I think the crux of the issue is. Technology has exacerbated a problem and, rather than simply bow to that, they tried to come up with a solution. Whether that solution addresses the negatives of the problem without introducing other, worse negatives is to be seen. On paper, it feels like they have addressed the problem in a reasonable way if you trust that they want to make money while absolving themselves of liability. They can’t violate users’ privacy if they don’t have the ability to do so.
//they tried to come up with a solution.//
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they decided to spy on us
^there I fixed it for you.
Making me total dictator would be a 'solution' too
I mean something has to be done nothing else is working or could possibly work. Me for dictator- I promise to be benevolent, who can argue with that. At worst it is a thing reasonable ppl can disagree about. /s
I never said privacy was the problem, so your argument is irrelevant. What I said is that privacy (true privacy) introduces problems that we may want to solve for. You can simultaneously be an advocate for user privacy while agreeing that CSAM is bad and should be minimized. The question is how do you maintain privacy while still being able to act (especially if mandated by a government) on known illegal actions. In the past, that wasn’t possible. Apple is suggesting that this is possible but with the giant caveat that you have to be willing to put trust in the way the system is developed.
I wonder how we ever survived with the level of privacy we had before the advent of the internet. It must've been a living hell. /s
Privacy is not a problem, it is necessary in order for freedom from tyranny to be possible. Even if all the governments of the world mandate that all communication devices must be compromised like this, criminals will still be able to have private communication channels, but lawful citizens won't.