Everyone is wondering how Reddit can be valued this high despite the fact they don't data mine as much as Google or Facebook, and a good amount of their users aren't even using the official site or app, and instead use alternative apps that don't serve ads.
My guess, based on just how horribly censored and astroturfed their subs have become over the last 5 years, is that the targeting of banner ads and stealing personal data for "analytics and sharing with data partners" is not their business model. Instead, they're paid big money to push narratives to the masses of 16-30 year olds that flock to the site religiously.
The group-think on Reddit is far greater than any other site I've ever seen on the internet, including very partisan forums and "media" outlets. And even the tiniest bit of disagreement from accepted narratives - e.g. small subs that wouldn't have even been noticed ten years ago - are crushed and removed without mercy.
What's more insidious is that it isn't just the typical corporate "sponsors" who are pushing sneakers or phones or mobile games. I'd imagine it's deep-pocketed NGOs, state controlled PR and propaganda agencies, and worse.
I agree and personally I gave up on Reddit and stopped going to the site.
To be brutally honest, I think HN has started to become similar in many ways. I've been around here for over 10 years and it's definitely different than the early days.
I only started reading hackernews a few years back, so I don't know what it was like in the past so I'm quite curious to hear how hackernews used to be and how it has changed.
My guess, based on just how horribly censored and astroturfed their subs have become over the last 5 years, is that the targeting of banner ads and stealing personal data for "analytics and sharing with data partners" is not their business model. Instead, they're paid big money to push narratives to the masses of 16-30 year olds that flock to the site religiously.
The group-think on Reddit is far greater than any other site I've ever seen on the internet, including very partisan forums and "media" outlets. And even the tiniest bit of disagreement from accepted narratives - e.g. small subs that wouldn't have even been noticed ten years ago - are crushed and removed without mercy.
What's more insidious is that it isn't just the typical corporate "sponsors" who are pushing sneakers or phones or mobile games. I'd imagine it's deep-pocketed NGOs, state controlled PR and propaganda agencies, and worse.