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No time? Can't people take vacation leave? Yeah it sucks that the time isn't spent on vacation, but you can't have everything in life without some cost.


You are either a troll or don't have a family. If you do have a family i feel sorry for them.

Life is not just about work.


I am not trolling. I do have a family. But I am still of the opinion that expecting absolutely no time/cost investment on your part when seeking a new job, is a false entitlement.


It's not false in the current market. You can spend an order of magnitude less on each company just by learning algos once.


If you want to interview at 5 places, and they all have 40-hour projects, then what? You disappear from work for a month while you job search?


If you already have a job you are very likely not in desperate need of a new job. If you want a higher salary then you probably need to sacrifice something.


That seems like a really counter-productive position to take if you are trying to hire software engineers. The market is currently very hot so if you are limiting yourself to only candidates who are in "desperate need of a new job" then you are probably going to have a lot of trouble finding people.


I'm not trying to optimise hiring, I'm just pointing out that from the developers point of view it's not a big issue.


We are going to have to agree to disagree here. Anything that eats a full month of my time is a big deal, and I expect companies to be more efficient with my time than this.


Few large organizations are very efficient about anything related to HR or management. But I'm not sure where you're getting "one month" from.


If all companies do this, then interviewing at 5 companies eats 5 weeks of time.


Presumably the project is the last step, when they are basically just checking that you are as good as you say you are. Like checking references. At that point you should already be 90% certain to be hired, not 20%.


Yes. Right now I've saved a month of vacation days so it's totally possible for me. And during that month, you get paid for these new projects, so in the worst case you can ask for unpaid leave at your old employer. What's wrong with that?


At some point the best thing is to just pass on working with them. If the hiring requirement is so draconian that it selects out people with options you end up with a company full of second tier people.


Company is better pay damm well for me to spend my own time to try to get working there. I would evaluate that limit to be multiple times market rates.




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