>A lot of people in this thread seem to be suggesting that since we can’t pin down an absolute answer we should what… do nothing?
I don't think this is the most generous take. I think what most people are trying to find is the underlying principles. Consider the following potential first principles:
1) Minimize suffering
2) Minimize animal death
3) Minimize charismatic mega fauna death
4) Minimize climate impacts
5) Maximize human health
6) Maximize human performance
7) Maximize human longevity (healthspan or lifespan)
Each of those can lead down different, sometimes competing tracts. Can vegan/vegetarianism be compatible with any of those? Sure. Can it optimize all of them at the same time? I'm doubtful. It's certainly possible that in the rush to do something we end up on the wrong trade-off. That's why it's import to drill down on exactly what one is claiming is ultimately important.
I don't think this is the most generous take. I think what most people are trying to find is the underlying principles. Consider the following potential first principles:
1) Minimize suffering
2) Minimize animal death
3) Minimize charismatic mega fauna death
4) Minimize climate impacts
5) Maximize human health
6) Maximize human performance
7) Maximize human longevity (healthspan or lifespan)
Each of those can lead down different, sometimes competing tracts. Can vegan/vegetarianism be compatible with any of those? Sure. Can it optimize all of them at the same time? I'm doubtful. It's certainly possible that in the rush to do something we end up on the wrong trade-off. That's why it's import to drill down on exactly what one is claiming is ultimately important.