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Shame on you John Gruber.

Seriously though, it's John's show and he's free to take it to another network. I just _really_ hope that this transition was done in a respectful manner and that there isn't bad blood between 5by5 and Mule.

A little background: Let's Make Mistakes, Mule Radio's main show, got started with 5by5's help. Let's Make Mistakes was a 5by5 network show for it's first year of existence. It garnered all of the listenership and cross promotion that comes with being part of 5by5. After a year of getting traction, Mule split the show off into its own podcasting network, essentially becoming a competitor to 5by5. If Mule now aggressively poached The Talk Show from 5by5 then it was certainly a dick move.

Of course, we don't have all the details and this is just speculation. So again, I hope this was done in a way that respected Dan and 5by5.



I don't know if the transition was respectful in what regards Dan, but it sure was not respectful towards the listeners.

As you, I also feel he's free to move his show wherever he wants, but I also thing he owes his listeners an explanation, or at least a comment. 5by5 was the house we visited to listen to John (with Dan) and we show up and he's not there. A mere link on his website, with no explanation, is, in my opinion, rather distasteful. I haven't heard the new episode until the end, so I don't know if he makes any comment at the end. But certainly there's no explanation or introduction. Even if they parted ways in an unfriendly fashion, he still owes a lot to Benjamin.

Finally, he's an awful Sponsor message reader. Poor Piezo.


As much as like Gruber, hearing him read Piezo’s sponsor message was kind of painful.


> If Mule now aggressively poached The Talk Show from 5by5 then it was certainly a dick move.

Looks like John was the initiator:

> John approached us and we were thrilled to welcome him.

https://twitter.com/#!/MuleRadio/status/203567508660297728


I've seen Gruber say that Mike Montero was a really good friend of his a few times. He was even on their show. The move could be because he wanted to be with friends and support their efforts.


Feel free to show how you feel by rating the podcast in iTunes and the new mule radio app as well.




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