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No one dies if our users can't shitpost until tomorrow morning.

I'm glad there are people willing to do oncall. Especially for critical services.

But the software engineering profession as a whole would benefit from negotiating concessions for oncall. We have normalized work interfering with life so the company can squeeze a couple extra millions from ads. And for what?

Nontrivial amount of ad revenue lost? Not my problem if the company can't pay me to mitigate.



> Nontrivial amount of ad revenue lost? Not my problem if the company can't pay me to mitigate.

Interestingly, when I worked on analytics around bugs we found that often (in the ads space), there actually wasn't an impact when advertisers were unable to create ads, as they just created all of them when the interface started working again.

Now, if it had been the ad serving or pacing mechanisms then it would've been a lot of money, but not all outages are created equal.


Not all websites are for shitposting. I can’t talk to my clients for whom I am on call because Signal is down. I also can’t communicate with my immediate family. There are tons of systems positively critical to society downstream from these services.

Some can tolerate downtime. Many can’t.


You could give them a Phone call, you know. Pretty reliable technology.


No, actually, I can’t. My phone doesn’t have a phone number and can’t make calls.


Also: do you think the telephone network has no oncall engineers?




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