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It's a single region?

I don't think anyone would quote availability as availability in every region I'm in?

While this is their most important region, there's a lot of clients that are probably unaffected if they're not in use1.

They COULD be affected even if they don't have anything there because of the AWS services relying on it. I'm just saying that most customers that are multi region should have their east region out and are just humming along.



It’s THE region. All of AWS operates out of it. All other regions bow before it. Even the government is there.


"The Cloud" is just a computer that you don't own that's located in Reston, VA.


Facts.


The Rot Starts at the Head.


AWS GovCloud East is actually located in Ohio IIRC. Haven't had any issues with GovCloud West today; I'm pretty sure they're logically separated from the commercial cloud.


> All of AWS operates out of it.

I don't think this is true anymore. In the early days bad enough outages in us-east-1 would bring down everything because some metadata / control pane stuff was there, I remember getting affected while in other regions, but there's been many years since this has happened.

Today for example no issues. I just avoid us-east-1 and everyone else should to. It's their worst region by far in terms of reliability because they launch all the new stuff there and are always messing it up.


A secondary problem is that a lot of the internal tools are still on US East, so likely the response work is also being impacted by the outage. Been a while since there was a true Sev1 LSE (Large Scale Event).


What the heck? Most internal tools were in Oregon when I worked in BT pre 2021.


The primary ticketing system was up and down apparently, so tcorp/SIM must still have critical components there.


tell me it isn't true while telling me there isn't an outage across AWS because us-east-1 is down...


I help run quite a big operation in a different region and had zero issues. And this has happened many times before.


If that were true, you’d be seeing the same issues we are in us-west-1 as well. Cheers.


Global services such as STS have regional endpoints, but is it really that common to hit specific endpoint rather than use the default?


The regions are independent, so you measure availability for each on its own.


Except if they aren't quite as independent as people thought


Well that’s the default pattern anyway. When I worked in cloud there were always some services that needed cross-regional dependencies for some reason or other and this was always supposed to be called out as extra risk, and usually was. But as things change in a complex system, it’s possible for long-held assumptions about independence to change and cause subtle circular dependencies that are hard to break out of. Elsewhere in this thread I saw someone mentioning being migrated to auth that had global dependencies against their will, and I groaned knowingly. Sometimes management does not accept “this is delicate and we need to think carefully” in the midst of a mandate.

I do not envy anyone working on this problem today.




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