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I briefly worked for Cisco after an acquisition, and it was a great time: I would get my sprint’s worth of work done in two days, ask if I could do anything else and be told no, and then spend the rest of the two weeks doing whatever I wanted, which at the time was learning Rust.

All that is to say, I would not be remotely surprised if Cisco has more employees than they strictly need. But, this email from the CEO is comically out of touch. “We’re doing great, better than we’ve ever done, so we’re going to fire thousands of you” is a chef’s kiss encapsulation of American corporate culture.



the CEO is comically out of touch

Maybe with normal people but that's not the target audience. The investors are the target and it's exactly what they want to hear.


When I worked for Cisco I was doing ~4hrs of work per week, excluding meetings, and always got top performance bonus. I didn't even have many meetings. I only left because my soul stopped being able to take it.


Their stock went up w/ Nvidia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48075500


Actually it is the current comic trend. The business is sound and we are doing great but we will reduce workforce for pleasure.

I think that in most places the business is going bad in fact, but if you were to believe their words it will show a very despicable spirit of the current decade where the goal is to enjoy maximum profit without any care at all to do any good.

Before a boss might enjoy to have a sound business to be able to preserve the work/income of his employees.

Now they would not care to fuck employees first but also customers after if that provide with a second yacht for holidays.

Just see Elon Musk as the godfather of this discipline...


My eldest is currently taking her GCSEs, and for the English Literature exam this week she had to write an essay on A Christmas Carol. Whilst helping her, I couldn't help but realise that the overarching messages around the importance of social responsibility are becoming increasingly relevant again.


I love how

“it was a great time” = “I worked two days a week”

Any job that pays a full week and only requires two days of work is a “great time”

tells you literally nothing about the actual job.


Yeah I mean, I was being a bit sarcastic. As the sibling points out, I was getting paid a full time salary to largely do whatever I wanted. But, it was also soul crushing to have so little meaningful work to do. I left within a year of the acquisition as a result.

The actual job was working on a python server for the acquired company, and it’s not like there wasn’t more work to do, but we were not allowed to go outside the bounds of the work that had been allocated for a sprint, which was always conservative in order to allow for more accurate overall plans. It’s certain that it was different in other departments or areas or acquired companies, but that at least was my experience.


That's interesting. Do you know what the fraction was of sprints that ended without all the work items associated with them being completed?


At least for our team, quite low. We had a very comfortable buffer, which allowed us to deliver in time to coordinate with the rest of the org. It may not have been a bad strategy overall from the top-down perspective, but it wasn’t a lot of fun as an IC


So, like every giant tech company with usury rats and stolen wages then :shrug:


The way to read that is that parent was being paid 2.5x what their FTE hourly rate would be.

In which case, I'd say they struck a helluva bargain at salary negotiation. Kudos.

It's not like they didn't ask for more work to do.


Funny that you expect an employee to view a great time as meaning more than successfully exploiting advantage to the employers disadvantage in a relationship with Cisco.


Imagine not working for a company that acts like

Crazy right?


The person you’re responding to has explicitly said that they worked there after an acquisition (so it’s not like they have chosen to work for Cisco) and that they only worked there briefly afterwards. I don’t understand why you’re being so hostile and judgmental.


Crazy is imagining an employer is of high integrity for your self esteem. How can a company that is high integrity compete with one that gets the same rewards while being of low integrity?


Simple

There are no high integrity companies so it’s just a rat king




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