> I can confirm a group like this exists (that describes me) but I can't even remotely make sense of a "woke right" label for it. I don't even consider myself "on the right" at all; I consider that the identity of leftism has been taken from me.
Then you aren't part of the phenomenon I'm describing. You seem to be rejecting the infiltration of identity politics into your political philosophy, rather than embracing it from the opposing side. The people in the latter category are the ones who often become "woke right".
> Only for satirical purposes, really.
It might have started out that way, but there now seems to have coalesced a genuine political faction around what originated as trolling.
> And there are more points of conflict than identity politics or collectivism and economic interventionism (I assume this can reasonably be rounded off to "support for the welfare state"). In particular, climate and energy policy.
No, I think support for the welfare state is tangential to the matter. There's a common thread shared between the hard left and its defectors to the "right" that regards the economy not as an emergent phenomenon driven by the purposeful choices of individuals, but as a concrete entity that is or ought to be managed in a top-down fashion by the political state (rather than merely seeing the state as a safeguard against certain failure conditions).
The people currently in power at the federal level, who nominally identify themselves as "conservative", are much more economically leftist than any other administration of my lifetime. Tariffs, nationalization of industry, and regulatory expansion are about as far from conservative agenda items as you can get. And an important segment of voters that put this administration in power are people who support these policies, and have defected to the "right" for reasons related to identity politics.
> It's more that people insist on putting that label on anyone who doesn't play ball with leftist identity politics. Some accept it; I absolutely do not.
Neither do I, but that doesn't stop them from doing it. That's exactly the point I'm making: there's now a faction of people who call themselves "conservative" purely out of an inversion of leftist identity politics, while still adhering to ideological positions fundamentally aligned with the hard left.
Then you aren't part of the phenomenon I'm describing. You seem to be rejecting the infiltration of identity politics into your political philosophy, rather than embracing it from the opposing side. The people in the latter category are the ones who often become "woke right".
> Only for satirical purposes, really.
It might have started out that way, but there now seems to have coalesced a genuine political faction around what originated as trolling.
> And there are more points of conflict than identity politics or collectivism and economic interventionism (I assume this can reasonably be rounded off to "support for the welfare state"). In particular, climate and energy policy.
No, I think support for the welfare state is tangential to the matter. There's a common thread shared between the hard left and its defectors to the "right" that regards the economy not as an emergent phenomenon driven by the purposeful choices of individuals, but as a concrete entity that is or ought to be managed in a top-down fashion by the political state (rather than merely seeing the state as a safeguard against certain failure conditions).
The people currently in power at the federal level, who nominally identify themselves as "conservative", are much more economically leftist than any other administration of my lifetime. Tariffs, nationalization of industry, and regulatory expansion are about as far from conservative agenda items as you can get. And an important segment of voters that put this administration in power are people who support these policies, and have defected to the "right" for reasons related to identity politics.
> It's more that people insist on putting that label on anyone who doesn't play ball with leftist identity politics. Some accept it; I absolutely do not.
Neither do I, but that doesn't stop them from doing it. That's exactly the point I'm making: there's now a faction of people who call themselves "conservative" purely out of an inversion of leftist identity politics, while still adhering to ideological positions fundamentally aligned with the hard left.