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"So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here""

That doesn't sound like a far right position though, just advocating for less or even no migration (from outside EU I guess).

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The "wolves" are, IIRC, "Romanian" gypsies - people that have lived for many generations within a number of European countries.

Romania is part of the EU, when DHH suggests they are wolves that need to be deported, where is he suggesting they be deported to?

  The history of their arrival in Romania, around 1370, is presented below.
~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Romania

Bear in mind the specific "gypsies" he had a bit of a rant about may well have been in 'his' country for a few generations already.

> That doesn't sound like a far right position though

And yet, they were on Hitler's list that included Jews, Gays, Disabled, Pinko's, etc.


This seems like a common misconception, but it actually isn't an indivisible human right to settle in another EU country if you don't have the means to support yourself [1]. If you have ever been engaged by them, it's obvious the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens.

Left, right, north or south on the political compass, all parties are in agreement about this, and thousands of people are deported from Denmark every year without Alligator Alcatraz concentration camps or other platitudes about nazism.

[1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...


> the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens.

I'm guessing by the quotes on "gypsies" that these are not the Roma that have been in and out of Finland and Denmark since the 16th century .. but apparently still being used as a slur after several hundred years?

~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Roma

Ah, well, baby steps.


Finnish Roma live in the same houses, their children go to the same schools (including those I attended), they speak the same language and they poop in the same toilets as everyone else. They also have every right to a safe city center without foreigners causing a nuisance.

Regarding terminology, many call themself "mustalainen" (literally "blackie", basically same as "gypsy" I guess) themselves. Although it can be considered offensive in some context, it's not exactly the same as dropping the n-word.




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