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A lot of early days Java apps built with Swing were slow and ugly. I think that's where a lot of the "java is slow" stories come from.

Of course, Jetbrains' products are a proof that you can use Java to build modern apps that are pretty good.



> A lot of early days Java apps built with Swing were slow and ugly.

Specially because most developers couldn't bother to write proper Swing code, or reading blogs like "Filthy rich clients".


Indeed, one of my proudest projects was written with Swing using a better LAF and custom widgets. I'm primarily a web developer at present, prefer Ruby or C over Java, and would rather build GUIs in Qt, but I don't mind Swing.


Actually the jetbrains UI is pretty bad on osx.




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